Longtubes

Lone Star wrote:

chrisverneuil wrote:Hey do ur research....Odd fire vs even fire the only diff is exhaust note/drone. Long tube headers have a great effect on low end toraue. Only reason why you dont see many ppl putting them on is becouse most that drive V6 mustangs DO NOT MOD them. So Back on topic old man. Get them Alex!

I am sick and tired of you thinking you know everything on every subject. YOU DONT you have some growing up to do! I have been on topic the entire time.

I post relative info on things I do know. Shorty vs Long battle. As Will pointed out Long tubes do give you more power and tq. But to get the best of it there are more things to be done. I had shorty headers on my car. And i have long tubes on the Rx7. The difference between the two on the cars was noticable. So to youre coment about me thinking I know everything I do not, But I do know a hell of a lot more than the everage person. http://www.stage3motorsports.com/c=8wUwtp9Cvj2n7PGXCmHuMcMvG/product/KOK-6036MUS6/2005-2010-Mustang-V6-Kooks-1-58-Long-Tube-Headers---Stainless-Steel.html
http://www.rpmoutlet.com/05v6jbahdr.htm

Chris here is a quote directly from the first link you posted

"You should only install long tube headers on V6 Mustangs that has been modified with performance bolt-ons or a supercharger. Stock V6 Mustangs do not have sufficient air intake to benefit significantly from long tube headers."

Alex, I am only trying to help you. I have done a lot of research on what parts make a noticible difference in overall performance on a 4.0 mustang. And to me spending $600-1000 for 5-10 hp 5-15 tq isn't worth it.

You would get better performance out of gears and t-lok or an 8.8 with gears than you will with the longtube headers.

Nice one James...now chris it's your turn.....

Another question, what's the difference between black, ceramic, and stainless headers

http://www.techlinecoatings.com/articles/Coating_Exhaust_Manifolds_Article.htm


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhaust_manifold

Well then the black headers wouldn't be worth the 200 then. Damn

Wow.... so much angry in here!!! LOL

Alex, no point in spending extra $$$ on long tubes unless you're building a race car.... and clearly, that is not the case. Those extra $$$ could buy you other track enhancements like drag radials, gears, higher octane fuel etc....

But what would I know? I do however know this guy that is a professional engineer, has been the head national engineer for a a very large complex auto fleet, solved multi-million dollar engineering tasks for years and often acts dumb and like a noob so as not to attract bad ju ju.... He has even been asked to manage a dragcar outfit on more than one occasion.... I can't tell you his name, but he says, "Consider saving the extra $$$ to go long & put towards other things with a higher performance return..." Sound familiar???

Ok so passing on LTs then. I wouldn't be able to buy anything soon anyway since we have to save up to move next month.

Lone Star wrote:Chris here is a quote directly from the first link you posted

"You should only install long tube headers on V6 Mustangs that has been modified with performance bolt-ons or a supercharger. Stock V6 Mustangs do not have sufficient air intake to benefit significantly from long tube headers."

Alex, I am only trying to help you. I have done a lot of research on what parts make a noticible difference in overall performance on a 4.0 mustang. And to me spending $600-1000 for 5-10 hp 5-15 tq isn't worth it.

You would get better performance out of gears and t-lok or an 8.8 with gears than you will with the longtube headers.

Yes. Sufficient air intake. Doesn't mean just Supercharger. JLT intake comes to mind. And Pacesetter has the long tubes for 199.99. There black coated nothing special. Depending on his goals there well within what he would like to do.