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Post by prodrifterx on Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:05 pm

bernie can answer that one better....but i dont know off the top of my head anyone that will. lol i hate md too bc of emmissions lol.

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Post by 5spd07gt on Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:10 pm

emissions in MD? thats only in certain parts of the state, right? anyone know what parts exactly? I know in western maryland (allegany county) there is no emissions test. Also, inspections are only when you buy a vehicle or register it, rite?
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Post by prodrifterx on Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:25 pm

to my knowledge emmissions are done through out the state. obd1 gets a sniff and roller test i belive. obd2 gets a scan test. and anything not obd1 and earlier gets only sniffed i believe.

however, dont expect them to follow the rules. they put 2 of my obd2 cars on the rollers even though the scan came up correct. and they have sniffed all of my vehicles.

standard is obd2 is 96 and newer, and they only require a scan.

inspections have to be done when buying, transfering vehicle between states, owners and such. once inspected in md i dont believe it needs to be inspected again unless one sells it/item chages ownership/one moves to another state.

again bernie (pro50) is the best to ask on this, but im pretty sure im right. the only thing that has been inconsistent between him and i is the bs statement that a trooper told me and the inspector at our shop.

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Post by TT_05_Stang on Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:45 pm

Types of Emissions Tests
The year of your vehicle determines what sort of testing it will undergo. Vehicles from the current two model years are exempt from the first round of testing. There are four varieties of analysis:

On-Board Diagnostics (OBD) Test
For vehicles of model year 1996 and up and weighing under 8,500 pounds.
What it does: Skips the tailpipe and exhaust completely and instead links into the vehicle's computer system (if it has one), searching for any sort of inconsistencies relating to the engine. If the Check Engine light blinks on at this point, things may not look so good for passing the test.

IM240 Dynamometer (a.k.a. the Treadmill) Test
For vehicles of model years 1984 to 1995 and weighing under 8,500 pounds.
What it does: Vehicle is set on rollers to simulate real driving while accumulating and sampling the exhaust in various situations.

Idle Test
For vehicles of model years 1977 to 1983 and large trucks weighing up to 26,000 pounds.
What it does: Emissions are pondered via computer while the vehicle sits idling.
Gas Cap Pressure and Leak Check
For all vehicles.
What it does: Makes sure that the cap is functioning properly and seals like it should.

I passed without cats and twin turbos... S197 cats are up where you cant see them very well with the mirror, and unless you have a check engine light on or trouble code, then you will pass without issues. Emissions is run by the state not county. Therefore the same rules apply across the state.

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Post by prodrifterx on Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:16 pm

will & bernie any reason why they put my 96 obd2 grand am on the treadmill and performed an idle test as well as the scan? they did the same thing with my 00 obd2 mustang. however when i took the 99 mustang(current car) they didnt do the treadmill, they did idle sniff and scan. any reason why theyd perform all or more than required tests on a vehicle?

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Post by TT_05_Stang on Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:43 pm

Well there are exceptions to the rule. If you run into one of those mean inspectors they will try to fail you. Especially if they sense you have modified the car. Extra loud exhaust, guages, body kits, sometime perk one of the "arsehole" inspectors to run another test. The 96 grand am might have had a build date of 95 even though it was sold in 96. Example my 05 mustang has a build date of December 04, but I purchased it in January 05. Not sure on that but a theory.

Did you have anything done to the 00 mustang? They really shouldnt have put it on the rollers, unless they suspected something, or the guy didnt like you, or the car... Unfortunately Mustangs are one of the most comonly modified cars, so if you get a stickler, he will try his hardest to find somthing wrong with it. Luckily mine looks as stock as you can get from the outside, and has no codes being thrown. I ran mine at the annapolis 450 one, and a young guy just plugged the car up, and said nice car.... no issues.

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Post by prodrifterx on Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:10 pm

lol wtf. i went to glen burnie for the grand am and 2000 v6 stang. (the grand am had a dual catback and cai, the stang had a short shifter)

i went to the annaoplis one in january this year with the new stang (99 gt) and they didnt put me on the rollers. yet they cant drive to save their lives. my buddy took his 95 neon there and the boy did 5 attempts on the treadmill til the boss quik passed it. they couldnt keep it revved and at the speed it wanted in such gear. besides they hit the gas just to pull up 2ft, and rock the hell out of the car going over rollers and such. i believ mybuild date was in 96 on the grand am. i know it was full obd2 and not hybrid obd1/obd2.

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Post by Big Blue on Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:56 pm

I go to the one in Balto on Erdman ave, and the people there
are just doing a job, most not very well, and they don’t seem to give a **** if
it fails or passes, so unless you got a problem they usually will pass you,
they just don’t care, and are working on 5 o’clock from the time they get
there, so that’s why I go there.
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Post by PRO50SC on Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:40 pm

5spd07gt wrote:So i have to have a sticker thats says the % on it? everywhere else i've been they just put this thing up to your window and it measures how much light passes through. I think I hate MD already Smile If they do make me remove it i'd only have to remove the front side windows, rite? I just had the tint put on 4mo ago too. No one knows any inspection places that mite let it slide?....say for an extra $20 on the side
Md is a PITA when it comes to inspections. Before removing it, take it to the MVA and have it tested. They only do this on certain days and hours of the week. They will use a light meter to determine the darkness of the tint. If it fails, you will have to take off whatever they tell you. Most likely if one window fails, they all will and you'll be removing all the tint.
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Post by PRO50SC on Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:47 pm

The emissions are hit and miss just like inspection stations. Although they should be the same across the line, they're not. I know when I went, all I had to do is the sniffer test. if you have custom wheels or the car is lowered, they are real worried about damage and most will let you slide w/ minimal testing. At least that's been the case for our two mustangs.
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Post by 5spd07gt on Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:47 pm

I know for a fact that Allegany and Garrett County Maryland DO NOT require smog testing. My best friend lives there and just bought a used car last month and didnt have to do it, just a standard inspection.

So if the MVA says its good will they give you a paper or something to show the inspectors? Also, if it fails i have to remove it all or just the front side windows? thanks guys for all the info
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Post by prodrifterx on Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:49 pm

PRO50SC wrote:The emissions are hit and miss just like inspection stations. Although they should be the same across the line, they're not. I know when I went, all I had to do is the sniffer test. if you have custom wheels or the car is lowered, they are real worried about damage and most will let you slide w/ minimal testing. At least that's been the case for our two mustangs.


then extensive mods here i come lol.

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Post by 5spd07gt on Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:00 pm

i just read on another site that when the DMV checks your tint they have a 3% margin of error and then i read somewhere else that there is a 5% margin of error. Either way I think I should be ok. The guy who tinted it said it'd pass an inspection in Mississippi where i was and the law there is also 35%. I just had it done a few months ago and he said it was a brand new tint that looks darker than normal tint but allows more light through. So we'll see what happens. In Waldorf the they check tint Tues and Thurs 8:30am-10:30am
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Re: Front plate mounting

Post by prodrifterx on Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:17 pm

cool good luck. should be fine then. didnt know they gave 3-5% error allowance.

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Post by Big Blue on Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:56 pm

5spd07gt wrote:I know for a fact that Allegany and Garrett County Maryland DO NOT require smog testing. My best friend lives there and just bought a used car last month and didnt have to do it, just a standard inspection.


Ya Garrett & Allegany dont have it but I know PG, Frederick, MoCo, Balto, Howard and AnnArundle do, and think there are mor, but those are the ones I know.
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